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Post by cofw on Sept 24, 2016 5:45:34 GMT
"For years, FBI officials and other national security experts have said that apparent lone wolves such as Adan and Ahmad Khan Rahami, charged in last weekend’s New York bombing, have no discernible profile that could be used to head off terrorist acts. But some counterterrorism experts who studied attackers motivated by jihadist ideology say they often exhibit traits similar to those of non-Muslim mass killers who have attacked schools, churches and workplaces.
“They share common behavioral and psychological characteristics,” said John Cohen, a criminal justice professor at Rutgers University and the former counterterrorism coordinator at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. “They’re the same people.”
Many studies of mass killers show that they had serious personal or psychological issues, regardless of their motives or religious identity. They bounced from job to job, struggled to find friends or romantic partners, or felt bullied by their peers. Some had traumatic home lives. Others struggled with a profound sense of shame.
Awareness of these shared traits could help focus FBI questioning of certain young men who already have come to the attention of law enforcement, these experts say.
“The attackers themselves act and feel like victims,” said Adam Lankford, a criminologist at the University of Alabama. “Various words are used. Persecution. Discrimination. Bullying. Humiliation. Mistreatment. The sense that someone else is picking on me and is out to get me.”
EAR and his small thingamajigger?? Perceived bullying by women who weren't interested in him?
www.washingtonpost.com/national/investigators-said-they-killed-for-isis-but-were-they-different-from-regular-mass-killers/2016/09/23/0e97949a-80c2-11e6-b002-307601806392_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_killers-845pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
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Post by almagata on Sept 24, 2016 6:36:27 GMT
There are millions of people that feel persecuted and bullied in some way so I'm not sure hurt feelings are what need to be recognized and managed. I think what we need to find are what elements are necessary for someone take action.
If you look at the groups in the 1960's & 1970's that were ideology based like the Manson Family, the Black Panthers, the Weatherman and the SLA, most people would not consider that the members of these groups to have taken action because they felt isolated. They just were willing to take action to promote their ideology. I'm not sure promote is the best word to describe their intended outcome of the disruptions they were causing but the end result was their getting attention for their cause and forcing people to have a discussion about the issues.
It is very comfortable to say that someone is crazy and a loner and their is no sense to what he did but the reality is, that many times these people that are viewed as outliers in behavior are the ones that change the mainstream if there are enough mainstream people that learn about their views and find logic in them.
What the Weatherman found in the 1970's was that random violence that injured people resulted in a negative view of their group and goals, so they became very cautious in planing their bombings to avoid injury to people.
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Post by Mr Hood on Sept 24, 2016 8:24:47 GMT
AG do you know of any groups that you've researched in the past that go undercover to obtain their goals? The only ones I have come across in the past want recognition so therefore they say what they want and take credit. The IRA would claim that it was them, although there's some murders re opened in more recent times but they don't seem to want to admit are theirs but I put that down to probably some people splitting off and going lone wolf or not having done their research before killing somebody.
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Post by almagata on Sept 24, 2016 9:11:15 GMT
The first clandestine groups that come to mind are government intelligence agencies or the military. I suspect the Vatican has been guilty of planning a few murders that they did not want linked to them in the past as well.
Then there are cases like the Son of Sam where there is fairly solid evidence that there were multiple people involved but without any publicized goal.
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Post by Mr Hood on Sept 24, 2016 9:41:50 GMT
The first clandestine groups that come to mind are government intelligence agencies or the military. I suspect the Vatican has been guilty of planning a few murders that they did not want linked to them in the past as well. Then there are cases like the Son of Sam where there is fairly solid evidence that there were multiple people involved but without any publicized goal. Yeah, I totally forgot about Son of Sam. The Vatican too, I'm guilty of not giving it much thought until somebody else mentions it then the light goes on. Thanks. |
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Post by albion on Sept 25, 2016 8:54:13 GMT
The first clandestine groups that come to mind are government intelligence agencies or the military. I suspect the Vatican has been guilty of planning a few murders that they did not want linked to them in the past as well. Then there are cases like the Son of Sam where there is fairly solid evidence that there were multiple people involved but without any publicized goal. I agree. I also wonder about the Pinkertons and other groups who were working for US Gov and Big Business. I seem to recall them doing tricks to acquire land for railroads, and later to break up strikes. This is an interesting question. I have to do more thinking on it. |
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Post by almagata on Sept 25, 2016 16:35:38 GMT
The first clandestine groups that come to mind are government intelligence agencies or the military. I suspect the Vatican has been guilty of planning a few murders that they did not want linked to them in the past as well. Then there are cases like the Son of Sam where there is fairly solid evidence that there were multiple people involved but without any publicized goal. I agree. I also wonder about the Pinkertons and other groups who were working for US Gov and Big Business. I seem to recall them doing tricks to acquire land for railroads, and later to break up strikes. This is an interesting question. I have to do more thinking on it. Not unlike what is going on in North Dakota today. www.democracynow.org/2016/9/6/full_exclusive_report_dakota_access_pipeline |
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